So my honey and I had a round-about slightly too emotional debate about names again. He's cool with whatever I want to do, and the debate wasn't actually about us, but rather about the practice of taking your husband's name in general. Up until recently (see below), there wasn't even a spot on marriage certificates for the husband to change his name. This is, unfortunately, extremely close-minded and totally American. When I looked at the practices of other countries, I found that women usually keep their last name, take both names, or even combine names. In Japan, if the woman is the last of her line or if the son is a second son, the man will take his wife's name. My honey's uncomfortableness stemmed from the idea that a man taking his wife's name wasn't "normal", but when you look around you can see that what's normal is different for different people.
I don't actually want my honey to take my last name, but I do want him to acknowledge that it's perfectly reasonable for a guy to take his girl's name instead of vice versa. The history of marriage is based on change, most of the practices we associate with marriage today are only from the past 50-100 years. It used to be totally normal for an old man to marry an 11 year old, or for a woman to literally be sold to her husband. Now we're on the cusp of gay marriage, marriage is changing again and it only makes sense that naming practices should change with it. In fact, there was a measure on the ballot in California for marriage licenses to include a spot for the man to change his name that recently passed and I'm sure it will be perfectly normal for naming to go either way in another 50 years.
In addition, there's a weird sort of perception surrounding name changing or not. In a recent article by Catherine Rampell in the New York Times, a group of Dutch researchers found that women who change their name when they marry make nearly $400,000 less over their lifetimes than women who do not. They are also viewed as older, less educated, and unmotivated compared to women who don't change their names. While I feel like this study isn't entirely accurate, it does make me feel bad about the whole name changing thing. I hope that any lingering perception about whether a woman changes her name or doesn't will also be a thing of the past given enough time.
"The Name Equality Act (effective January 1, 2009)
ReplyDeleteThe Name Equality Act of 2007 (AB 102, Chapter 567, Statutes of 2007) gives specific rights to parties at the time they are applying for a California marriage license to choose and list on the marriage license the name that each party will go by after marriage.
Parties are not required to have the same name, nor are they required to change their name."
Also, if you download the marriage license application online, its listed right on there as to what you are going to change your names to and either party can change their name. Its perfectly acceptable for either party to adopt and/or change the other's last name as either their own last name or their middle name.
I feel that your comparison to Japan and the rest of the world is not entirely "proof" that it should be "acceptable" (not that I believe it isn't, but just for argument's sake) because there are a lot of things that separates America from the rest of the world. Eg. lesbian orange juice ads in Europe (yes I pulled this from the movie Euro Trip, haahaa I hope this is fact). Another one I encountered frequently with growing up also relates to Japan - lesbianism, trans-gender individuals, and just flat out nudity that's included in cartoons and tv shows gears towards young children. As all of these were excessive in Sailor Moon (perhaps not in the aired versions, but in everything online that I found) and all of these were unacceptable at the time, I remember my mom repeated freaking out about what I was looking at because it wasn't acceptable here.
Either way, we've grown up in a society where something has been accepted as the norm for our generations entire life-time, and trying to ask someone to accept something very new and different just because "the rest of the world does it" doesn't necessarily mean they're going to. How many people in their 30's and up still have issues accepting the openness of gay and lesbian couples today, let alone the concept of giving them rights. Even people who hold nothing against these people have issue accepting the fact that they should have "rights" simply because they've grown up so differently.
Not saying that you're wrong at all, but there are definitely lots of angles to the whole ordeal.
P.S. this comment is long and probably poorly written however I'm not gonna go back and edit it. sorry of it sucks to read lol. ><
a little bit more about the names from the LA Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk:
ReplyDelete"NFORMATION REGARDING THE NAME EQUALITY ACT OF 2007
One or both parties to a marriage may elect to change the middle and/or last names by which that party wishes to be known after solemnization of the marriage. Each party applying for a marriage license may choose to include on their marriage license the newname in the spaces provided on the marriage license application without intent to defraud. Changing one’s name through this process can only be done at the time the marriage license is issued by the County Clerk or authorized Notary Public, as applicable.
Each party to the marriage may adopt any of the following last names:
The current last name of the other spouse.
The last name of either spouse given at birth.
A name combining into a single last name all or a segment of the current last name or the last name of either spouse given at birth.
A hyphenated combination of last names.
Each party to the marriage may adopt any of the following middle names:
The current last name of either spouse.
The last name of either spouse given at birth.
A hyphenated combination of the current middle name and the current last name of the person or spouse.
A hyphenated combination of the current middle name and the birth last name of the person or spouse.
NOTE: You may not change your first name using this process. IMPORTANT: You may not amend the marriage license after it has been issued to add or change the name you wish to be known as after you are married. The name you indicate on the marriage license application will be your name on the marriage license/certificate and cannot be changed by the County Clerk .
You are not required to change your name, nor are parties required to have the same name.
If one or both parties do not wish to identify a new name on the marriage license, fields 30A thru 31C, as applicable, on the marriage license will be completed with two single dashes. You may not change the information on the marriage license after it has been issued by the County Clerk ."
all info here: http://www.lavote.net/clerk/marriages.cfm